Filipino Religiousness (Discuss)

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  • #35598


    Allan
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    I recomend watching a Filipino video of same substance “Ang Birhen Ng Manaoag”. Im not sure if I recalled the title right. Good movie

  • #35513


    islaw
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    amen, erik, amen!
    very well said, mate!

  • #35502


    :
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    exactly right Islaw… many religious leaders act like they are god.. infallible.. they preach fear of everburning hellfire instead of courage… fear.. also taught by parents to their children.. such that children lose self-esteem, confidence and courage.. they cannot speak lest their parents cast them in hell (outcasts)… religious leaders are infallible to their flock in the same way parents are infallible to their family… in the same way, political leaders are infallible to their constituents.. so no matter what they do, they are ok.. they are the authority, they cannot make mistake…only the masses make mistake… such is our society..

  • #35501


    islaw
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    I agree with the quoted article on certain points but don’t share the same opinion on some the author’s statements which are very negative on the general.
    As far as I can remember, I was always told that we are one of the very few countries dominated by catholic faith. If I remember my history lessons right, the people who introduced the natives to organized religion are the same people who raped our women, killed and tortured our men and massacred our children for more than 300 years (remember Padre Damaso?). I wonder why Mr. De Quiros was even surprised seeing people who circumvent the rules of faith and law by doing evil, and then atoning their sins later on through religious rituals. The people who said sermons during the time of Rizal were the same people who were involved directly or indirectly in the abuse of Juan and everything that he had. I wouldn’t be surprised if the followers emulate this hypocritic behaviour.
    I have nothing against religion. I was born and raised in a catholic family (went to mass regularly before, dipped my finger in holy water, made the sign of the cross before doing anything, prayed in latin etc.) and was purely trained in catholic schools. But having been equipped with mental faculties that enables me to question and doubt my religion, I began to investigate in my own personal way, with the hope of finding a convincing answer to the pressing questions of religion. But so far I got NONE but the usual frowns and looks from people as if they can visualise me burning in hell for asking.
    It is only very recently that we started hearing about other major and minor religious sects, all claiming eternal peace and salvation only if its members follow the teachings to the letter. Before that, the catholic faith is the only passport to heaven.I heard that today,there are actually different heavens to go to, depending onwhich religion you believe in. And purgatory is the toilet in the Naga City Bus Terminal before it was under a new managemen (JOKE!)
    De Quiros wrote that there is a great deal of hipocrisy as the different rites and rituals are being used to cleanse those acts of the faithful that violate the basic religious teachings. I don’t know why this writer would even bother criticising us. IT’S JUST HOW THINGS ARE!!. KUNG ANO ANG NAKIKITA SA MATATANDA, YUN DIN ANG GAGAYAHIN NG MGA BATA.
    Here’sa fact, I’m not mentioning names, but there’s this priest who used to be the parish priest in my town.I’ve heard several rumours of womanising and other unpriestly behaviour. He leftpriesthood thenmarried a good friend of mine. They now live abroad. But believe me, I haven’t heard so much foul language from a man before, much less from an ex-priest. He swears and says nasty words that i wouldn’t dare say in front of my pedicab pushing friends.
    I hope I made some contribution by sharing my opinion. Thanks!

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    @Jeric
    Bwahahaha……

  • #34400


    Jeric
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    @Pading Wawoy
    Ty. Bako man, maluya sana ini, pero Uragon man.
    Minsan may sarong Uragon na nagduman sa bar kan mga Pinoy sa abroad. Kan may tama na, gusto magpasale, nanghamon, sabi “Ako angUragon digdi!”
    Silensyohon su gabos antes may tuminindog na lalake sabay sabi ” Ako ang Uragon!”
    Nagulat si Manoy, rinanehan su lalaki tapos hininghingan (binulungan) ” Padi duwa na kita, hi, hi, hi.”
    Happy Father’s Day!

  • #34393

    @Jeric
    Pading Jeric….Maurag tabi ang mga comments at analysis mo ah. I’m really impressed. If I would guess…guess lang to ha…I think you have a masters on either Business Management or Political Science or might even beboth. If I’m wrong then…you’reanother highly intelligent bicolano which I have the pleasure of conversing. It’s really an honor for me to meet a lot of highly educated and intelligent kababayans here at GB. Uragon talaga ang mga Bicolano/nas.

  • #34388


    Jeric
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    In a management system, in achieving an Objective or Goal, there’s what’s called SWOT Analysis. Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities Threats.
    The Strengths are enhanced to get hold of the Opportunities. The Weaknesses are identified to counter the impending Threats. With everything listed down, analyzed, developed and preventive measures taken, (coupled with good luck of course), the Objective/Goal is achieved to everyone’s satisfaction!

  • #34379

    @Pai Simon
    I guess both our way of thinking worked for both of us….There’s nothing to argue anymore because we are both happy where we are today. That is all we are trying to achieve di ba? Congrats and keep up your Critical Thinking……And I will keep up with my Beyond Possitive Thinking. πŸ™‚

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    By the way…..HAPPY FATHERS DAY!!!to both of you….It’s our day Padi. Let’s all enjoy this day and everyday that our creator had given us the chance to also pro-create. πŸ™‚

  • #34376


    ibarra
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    BY Manoy Wawoy:Focusing only on the positive things in lifeoften leadsto failureto achieve realiization and actualization. Now this statement I disagree with 300%.:-) Can you please please please give me examples and scenarios that a person focus on the possitive things in life and lead him to failure? Can you please expound on this and shed a light why you said what you said…for my own sake? Basedon my own experience….which is the only thing I can talk about. πŸ™‚ When I didn’t have the information that I have today, I felt like I was just existing and not really living (iving the life that I suppose to live is what I meant). Now, because I focus only onwhat I’m good at and work only on the things that makes me feel good….And very importantly….don’t focus on my negative thougts….I feel much happier and more at peace with myself. Which is what we are all trying to be di ba? To be happy. πŸ™‚
    Manoy Wawoy,no need to expound on this statement..I strongly believe that focusing on both positive and negative aspects of any thingresults to Actualization and Realization..This is CRITICAL Thinking,a way of thinking that has helped me achieve my goals.And it made memore efficient in dealing with problems,may it be inpersonal matters or in anything.This isbased on my personal experience too..And I’ve never been happier….

  • #34375

    @Pai Mikey
    Hehehe….I knew you are going to love this statement of Pading Simon. I still have yet to see and read any example of this statements though….
    Focusing only on the positive things in life often leads to failure to achieve realiization and actualization…
    Don’t just talk a good game ika nga…prove it with facts and figures. πŸ™‚

  • #34370


    Mikey
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    Manoy Wawoy,in order for us to appreciate the positve side of anything,we must also scrutinize the negative side of it…I dont see anything “negative”if you lay out to the publlic the lls and negative things that you observe and see .The key is,we must know and not ignore realities of life.Focusing only on the positive things in life often leads to failure to achieve realiization and actualization..It is very important to every individual to be aware of anything,may it be positive or negative. By Pading Simon.

    No offense meant to Pading Wawoy but I’m totally with Pading Simon with this statement. For sure, it’s always good to have a positive thinking-mind but I don’t think that’s a realistic hypothesis. In reality, majority of the people in this world have the “check & balance” mentality which means weighing always the pros & cons of their actions or plans.

    When people weigh up the negative sides of the consequences of their actions or plans I don’t think that indicates a person as a negative-thinker. I believe the more appropriate terms for it is proper thinking!

  • #34363

    @Pai Simon
    Manoy Wawoy,in order for us to appreciate the positve side of anything,we must also scrutinize the negative side of it… Yes! we absolutely must appreciate all the possitive side of things, however, we should not and must not scrutinize the negative side of it. Why you ask? Because that means you are focusing on the negative.
    I dont see anything “negative”if you lay out to the publlic the llsandnegative things that you observeand see. As a matter of fact, we do more harm when you lay it out that way. Imagine yourself having a kid….(Cause I don’t know if you have one)….and your kid is very good with a lot of things…and you saw that he/she is not very coordinated unlike the other kids around. Now, will you keep on reminding your kid how uncoordinated he/she was? This is what Mr. De Quiros is doing isn’t it? Now, based on the same scenario….I would not remind my kid how uncoordinated he/she is….but, I will definitely always point out all the good things that he/she is great at. If Mr. De Quiros has an article…that shows the possitive side of the Filipino religiousness….then I will unquestionably praise him for it. By the way, did he ever have this kind of an article? I am asking because I’ve never read any of his articles…only this one that Pai Eric had posted. πŸ™‚
    The key is,we must know and not ignore realities of life. I agree with this statement 100%. However, we must not focus on the negative side of it. I hope you agree with this statement also. πŸ™‚
    Focusing only on the positive things in lifeoften leadsto failureto achieve realiization and actualization. Now this statement I disagree with 300%.:-) Can you please please please give me examples and scenarios that a person focus on the possitive things in life and lead him to failure? Can you please expound on this and shed a light why you said what you said…for my own sake? Basedon my own experience….which is the only thing I can talk about. πŸ™‚ When I didn’t have the information that I have today, I felt like I was just existing and not really living (iving the life that I suppose to live is what I meant). Now, because I focus only onwhat I’m good at and work only on the things that makes me feel good….And very importantly….don’t focus on my negative thougts….I feel much happier and more at peace with myself. Which is what we are all trying to be di ba? To be happy. πŸ™‚

  • #34335


    Jeric
    Participant

    Magayon ang discussion na ini, maski dai dapat pag-debatehan sa sarong tiripon ang Religion, Politics, Business saka mga Piday-Piday. Kudi ta sa webman ini, dai man magsasapukan ang pros and antis, besides, mga mature na kita kaya pwede na.
    I also have read the De Quiros column. The point here, it should not be debated or interpreted based on a single paragraph butin its entirety. It’s just likepreaching religion based on collated verses from different Gospels and Books to get to the desired impact and effect, whereas, when reading and interpreting the Bible, it should be read from Chapter to Chapter.
    Anyway, keep it up guys.

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