love people and use things.. NOT love things and use people..

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  • #135161


    You are right Mr. Manny.I post it because i want some people get an idea to what i have research. I Hope people would be like this but im going to have a lot of trouble.Kahit na nga gumagawa ang isang tao ng kabutihan para sa kapwa nia dami pa rin na komukontra…Di naman lahat ng tao nadadaan sa please.For Example: Jolina Magdangal nagbago lang cia ng image look nia dami ng komentaryo sa kanya.God Bless po.

  • #135151


    MR. ZEUS.Isa lang po ang pagkakaintindi ko sa post nyo: “Hindi natin maiiwasan na hindi gumamit ng tao sa negosyo or trabaho. No man is an island, and we can’t live and go on by ourselves alone. We need each other to survive. Sa nature, that’s what we call ecological balance.Based on your post, you suggested that be considerate and give others what they deserved, as you deserved to get what you want out of these people, tama po ba? It’s a give and take process, and forgive as you are being forgiven. The laws or of Reciprocity applies here, and as well as the saying goes, “for every action, there is an equivalent reaction”.

  • #135144


    Base po ini sa pagsearch ko igdi sa internet kya ko po gusto i share ining nabasa ko. (No offense po)Use People and Love Things Or Vice Versa?People in our post post-modern society love things and
    use people. People are used to getting places, climbing ladders, and
    selling and buying stuff. Things are fantasized about and sought after
    in the same greedy way. By far and away most of us Westerners live with
    more but have paradoxically and increasingly less in the spiritual and
    emotional bank. We may have flash cars, nice homes, a boat, and lots of
    technological gadgets and other stuff. More than we’d ever use half the
    time. Or if we do use them all, there’s less time left for doing
    ‘internal’ work with ourselves or relating with people.
    Not only do we love things but we tend to use people. Our closest relationships are typically there for us, and for our disposal. We all love
    our spouses, kids, and families but how often do we sell them out to
    our own needs? This is evidenced by the many dysfunctions and arguments
    that mar most families. Not just that; what about our ’second-tier’
    relationships? Those of our work colleagues and acquaintances, where at
    least mentally we conceive where we might manipulate a discussion,
    meeting or relationship to serve our own purposes — for instance, to be
    heard. The final frontier is on the road, where the selfish behavior of
    using people reaches the lowest standard, where people are abused
    wholesale for making innocent mistakes and we try and gain a fractional
    advantage by swapping lanes incessantly.
    Do I sound harsh? Perhaps. There is no doubt there are many people
    who have the balance the other way, the right way, around. That is to
    put people first and utilize things as required. “Love people, use things” could be the mantra.
    What should we do to reinforce the mantra?
    Love People:
    – Listen to people and be patient with them.
    – Be prepared to lose the odd battle for the greater benefit of the team (or family).
    – Give more than you receive.
    – Say sorry often when you make mistakes and mean it.
    – Give people the best resource you can give them; your time. Now that’s a good investment!
    – When you’re out in the world, respect fellow human beings — especially people you don’t know.
    Use Things:
    – Resist the love of things. Stop materialism in its tracks.
    – Reject “retail therapy” as the sham it is.
    – Be thankful for the things you’ve accumulated but don’t worship them.
    – Don’t waste the resources available to you; respect them appropriately.
    – Try sharing your things with other people (to show you love them), and even give them away if they serve you no valid purpose anymore.
    No one would admit to not loving their families or friends as much
    as their stuff, but this is a firm challenge for each one of us to get
    the balance swinging more into the “love people, use things”
    direction. If we do this we can also tap into the reservoir of our own
    psyche to not only become a better person, but become more relational
    and more spiritual at the same time. It just bears thinking about.
    base idea of Dr. Paul E. Koptak

  • #135109


    Ne POI, mas marhay kuta kung hinapot mo ako manungod sa brownouts, pero magayon man su saro mong hapot, kaya huni an simbag ko:Actually, I shortened the quotation, but to me, the message, the meaning is unchanged. That passage comes from William Blake’s “Auguries of Innocence”, a poem we took up in high school, the same poem from which I extracted the passage I quoted in your Thread, “My Dog Diego”. Here’s the first fours lineof that poem:”To see a World in a grain of sand,And a Heaven in a wild flower,Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand,And Eternity in an hour.”How did Blake “see a world in a grain of sand” in early 19th century, when they only had Newtonian physics, without the electron microscope and supercolliders we have today? Well, Blake’s was an augury, a prediction. He had VISION, unlike most of our Philippine leaders/politicians who haven’t got a clue what the country will be like in say 20-50 years when the Philippine population will be somewhere in the range of 115-170 million people, if left unchecked. But that’s a different story.Now, it’s easy to see the world in a grain of sand with an electron microscope, and see the atoms which it is made of, which everything is made of___ from the grain of sand, to the earth, to our solar system, to our galaxy, to the cosmos, which is made of billions and billions of stars just like our own, according to the late cosmologist, Carl Sagan.All that knowledge from a single atom of a grain of sand___an atom which is mostly empty space. We are made of atoms too, that is to say, we are mostly empty space, and we started from an infinitesimally small single sperm cell (out of millions) meeting a single egg cell. We are born, live our lives, and finally end into exactly where we started from, a tiny part of a grain of sand. But do we really end like that? I thought as we live, we shoot for something grander (I am a Catholic, by the way)__something like heaven or eternity or eternal life.That, my dear Ne POI, is where we are going to have a lot of trouble. We are are going into the realm of the metaphysical, or in Blake’s words, to see “Heaven (Eternity) in a (wild) flower.” We will be like the Philippine leaders/politicians, who worry too much about heaven, and not the physical existence of rapid population growth and poverty which make people live in living hell and deny them of their “unalienable (and natural) rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”Let’s take a break. Brownout is coming.

  • #135091

    Manay Rose

    This thread is turning to be interesting, it is branching out to a more indepth discussion. I came across a reading which I found to be interesting and perhaps would be relevant, reading from the input of Dexter.
    by: May Rostom [through the net]

    For hours now I’ve been trying to think about what life means. I looked it up in the dictionary and found out that it’s the opposite of death (duh!), but I wasn’t really satisfied with this answer because I think there’s more to it than that. I felt an urge to explore the many definitions of life from many different angles so I searched some more.Abraham Lincoln once said that it’s not the years in your life that count, it’s the life in your years. Based on what I understood, I think Abe was trying to encourage people to enjoy their lives and make it worth living.What I didn’t understand was how can one do that? I stopped to think about what makes someone’s life miserable and here are some of the things I came up with. Misery is great unhappiness and the number one cause of misery is the loss of someone you love deeply.Its either you lost this person physically (i.e. death or travel) or lost them emotionally (where both of you took different paths in life).Although people might leave you whether physically or emotionally, in my opinion nothing truly dies, they just transform into different things.When someone you know passes away or travels they leave behind treasures also known as memories.Everywhere you go, you can still feel them, see someone that looks like them or even just the slightest smile on a child’s face can remind you of them.So I noticed that parting shouldn’t be that scary nor a source of misery because you can lose someone physically but you’ll still have your emotions and memories to hang on to and this is when this person transforms into a snapshot that you just keep looking at.Misery is also defined as misfortune and misfortune is sometimes a result of losing money or material you had or were going to have. But again money doesn’t buy happiness which means it can’t make you happy but I’m quite sure money can make you miserable so regardless if you have money or not you should be happy and thankful.So as long as you have the right amount of money that will help you get by (and I mean food, drink and shelter not sushi, wine and castles) then you’re good to go and making more money is just a way to help you feel accomplished and more satisfied.This way you won’t let it ruin your life for good, hence not being a source of misery anymore. Some people feel miserable when they’re un-employed but again a job doesn’t have to be something you get paid to do.Charity is a job, parenting is a job and teaching is a job (teaching religion, values/morals and everyday facts to people you know) so this way no one can ever be un-employed.So after observing these few causes of misery (I know they don’t completely cover the issue but I think they’re the most common amongst us these days) I figured out how you can make your life worthwhile. Let go, let go of your fears, misery, laziness and ties that hold you back from living and just make the best of what you’ve got rather than going after what you can’t have, envying others and being jealous of every single person that’s better than you.You are what you are; people aren’t the same that’s why we look different.Don’t let time pass you by while you just sit there and sulk because simply, life in three words:It goes on

  • #135086


    Pai Bio, ay ta grabe ang dalagan kan elektrisidad sa utak mo. saka ta ka hapoton kan manongod sa electricidad buda sa satuyang mga rotating brown outs.oni na gugna tabi….how do YOU (saindo tabing gibo) “see the world in a grain of sand and eternity in a flower?”

  • #135078


    Maraming Salamat, Ne Rose, Manny.I try “to see the world in a grain of sand and eternity in a flower.” I know that as an artist, Manny, you would like to convey more than what is framed in the pictures that you take and show. In the same token, I try to find as much as I can from a narrative. It is very much like squeezing gritted coconut in an attempt to extract as much coconut milk out of it. To all of us, it is probably the natural thing to do.Thank you for answering the one question that I asked. There are actions and ideas around that are naturally or inherently good regardless of who does the action and who has the idea. I think those actions and ideas are included in the domain of the laws of Nature.Ne Rose, a life lived for others is indeed inherently good regardless of who lives that life. That is a natural law.

  • #135076


    Yes Manay Rose and “Noy Bio”, I know what you mean – spoon feeding might lead to being irresponsible and independent kapag ang tao ay namihasa na at inabuso ang yong kabaitan…But that’s not what I had in mind when I read the original content. The reason why I posted this is beyond God and religion, or Mc Donalds, or any advertising. It’s more than that.But I love stories about bravery, heroism, and anything inspiring. I usually cry tears of joy and fullfilment when I hear stories about ugly ducklings turning into swan, or an act of bravery for the sake of society. In fact I wrote a novel entitled “BINHI NG KATUTUBONG LAHI”, which I’m planning to post here at GB for critic purposes. The story is about bravery and change… ..When I posted this thread, I was not thinking about any religion at all. I was only talking about God, because the original message talks about God. But for me there’s more than that. It is the innate feeling which gives you satisfaction and belongingness by offering what you have. It is based on the saying that “No man is an island,” that we need each other in this world, All beings in this world have a place which we should respect. Even plants and animals has something to give and some needs in return… And each has something to give… Yes even the aetheist who doesn’t believe in God, or a communist who’s an enemy of state can do acts of charity. Nakapaloob po iyon sa paniwalang ang mga tao ay hindi likas na masama. At kahit halimaw ay nagbabago din basta lang may matyagang aakay sa kanya sa tamang landas – it’s called “the taming of the wild”. Perhaps, someone whom you helped in the past would learn to trust you, at ang pagtulong sa maliliit na bagay ang magbigay sa mumunting pagbabago at kasiyahan.Para po sa akin, ang pagtulong ay hindi isang pakitang tao lamang na may hinihintay na kapalit. Ang pagtulong sa kapwa ay isang responsibilidad na ikaw lamang ang nakakaintindi at hindi pwedeng husgahan nino man, Dahil ikaw lamang ang nakakadama ng kasiyahan sa pagtulong kahit na ano pa po ang intensyon mo. At kabilang na dyan yung kapag namulat ka sa katotohanan na hindi lahat ng bagay ay nabibili ng iyong salapi. Kapag naisip mo na marami kang itinatapon na maaaring pinapangarap ng karamihan sa ating mga naghihirap na kababayan. Para sa akin, simple lang naman ang ibig sabihin ng istoryang nakasaad dito sa topic – huwag mong pandirihan bagkus tanggapin mo ang mga taong mabaho sa paningin mo. Dahil kapag napagbago mo sila, posibleng sila ang magligtas sa’yo balang araw. Bihisan mo sila at turuan ng tama, magsilbi kang magandang halimbawa. Kung walang gustong gumawa, simulan mo. Hindi ka umaasa ng kapalit na utang na loob, ang sinasabi ko lang ay “posible” ang pagbabago na ikagiginhawa mo din at ng iyo mga anak, physically, emotionally, and mentally…. The title speaks for itself “love people and use things… Not love things and use people”. Regardless of kung ito ba ay advertisement ng Mc Donalds, chain letter, or isang propaganda, para sa akin, malinaw pa sa tubig ang mensahe ng ipinaparating ng istoryang ito, at posibleng eye opener sa masalimuot kong buhay tungo sa pagbabago…

  • #135073

    Manay Rose

    Perhaps this could summarize it: [my favorite quotation]“Only a life lived for others is a life worth while.”

  • #135071


    Manny, mi amigo, como esta? Since nobody else is commenting as yet, let me try a crack at it. That way, you can have an idea of my line of thinking, a practicing electrician’s way of interconnecting things. Yours is a good story, but sorry I did not forward it to anyone. I don’t do it. Maybe, that is why a lot of my wishes do not come true but that’s OK. I’m still around “to see the world in a grain of sand and eternity in a flower.”But let’s see what else are covered in your story___continuing adult education, family planning, MacDonalds, homelessness, generosity, charity, sociology, God and, of course, how things multiply rapidly.The wife and mother obviously loves education and she practiced family planning (children 14, 12, 3 years of age).She had to, otherwise, if she had many children she would have not been able to finish her degree. Thus, with that education, she’s a better member of society (Sociology).By coincidence, the day you posted this, was the 20th anniversary of the opening of the first MacDonalds franchise in Russia and when that happened, people lined up for hours to have a taste of what the Russians called “Freedom, not French, Fries”. Funny, ain’t it, that the most recognizable symbol of American capitalism, became a symbol of Freedom, not the American Flag, to the Russians.Homelessness is not solved by the good acts of generosity or charity. “Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he’ll eat for the rest of his life”. Small wonder the wife and mother wanted to have a degree.Communism was supposed to be a “godless” society. Maybe so, but most communists never were godless. That’s one reason why Russian communism only lasted less than a century. But here’s a question for you, Manny and all, __Had the generous act done by the lady to the the two homeless men, were done by an atheist (a real communist), would the act still be considered as charity?Finally, I don’t forward chain letters because the same concept applies to the spread of poverty.I admire your many talents, Manny, and I appreciate the work that you do. I wish I can have some of those talents of yours but, like I said, most of my wishes do not come true. I kind of wonder why.I know you know electricity and electronics. With the recurring brownouts all over, that knowledge will come in handy.

  • #135051


    Mahal kong Bicolandia,This is a forwarded message sent to me by a very special friend of mine… The content has a very good story to learn, and it served the purpose: It moved me… I think I should share it all the way here at GB. If you are interested in knowing how God moves us in mysterious ways, then read on… If you believe that wishes do come true, share this to others… The instruction is: Email this to 3 people closes to you and your wish shall be granted within a week. Share this to 32 people and your wish shall be granted within a day….But I believe that sharing this to a blog where million users read everyday will give me a thousand blessings! Comment if you want, but I dare you to read the story from first to last.. You’ll see!Breakfast at McDonald’sThis
    is a good story and is true, please read it all the way through until
    the end! (After the story, there are some very interesting facts!): I am a mother of three (ages 14, 12, 3) and have recently completed my college degree. The last class I had to take was Sociology. The teacher was absolutely inspiring with the qualities that I wish every human being had been graced with. Her last project of the term was called, ‘Smile.’ The class was asked to go out and smile at three people and document their reactions. I am a very friendly person and always smile at everyone and say hello anyway. So, I thought this would be a piece of cake, literally. Soon after we were assigned the project, my husband, youngest son, and I went out to McDonald’s one crisp March morning. It was just our way of sharing special playtime with our son. We were standing in line, waiting to be served, when all of a sudden everyone around us began to back away, and then even my husband did. I did not move an inch…. an overwhelming feeling of panic welled up inside of me as I turned to see why they had moved. As I turned around I smelled a horrible ‘dirty body’ smell, and there standing behind me were two poor homeless men. As I looked down at the short gentleman, close to me, he was ‘smiling’ His beautiful sky blue eyes were full of God’s Light as he searched for acceptance.. He said, ‘Good day’ as he counted the few coins he had been clutching. The second man fumbled
    with his hands as he stood behind his friend. I realized the second man
    was mentally challenged and the blue-eyed gentleman was his salvation. I held my
    tears as I stood there with them. The young lady at the counter asked him what they wanted. He
    said, ‘Coffee is all Miss’ because that was all they could afford. (If
    they wanted to sit in the restaurant and warm up, they had to buy
    something. He just wanted to be warm).

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