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February 13, 2009 at 8:40 AM #108204
Maraming salamat po Mikey at nauunawaan niyo ako. 🙂
Una, ay dahil sa pagbanggit niyo tungkol sa paglalagay ng detalye sa profile. Nakakagulat talaga dahil ito ang naging dahilan kung bakit ako pinukol ng mga negatibong kumento. (Kung dapat palang iwanang blanko ang profile, sana ay hindi na lang inimbento ang paglalagay ng mga impormasyon dito.)
Isa pa rin ay dahil sa pagkaklaro niyo kay Jaime na ang aking ginagawa ay parte na ng “research” (na ayon sa kanya ay dapat ko raw gawin.)
Muli, nagpapasalamat ako sa inyo at lubos ko kayong iginagalang. 🙂
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February 13, 2009 at 8:29 AM #108203
@ mickey….AMEN!!!!,o cya tama na,tapos na,i love u,hapi valentines!
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February 13, 2009 at 8:21 AM #108202
bakit kailangan natin ng “po” at “opo” lagi sa pag-uusap… i’m sure magaling at matalino si Dei.. alam natin ang kalidad ng mga taga U.P… taga UP rin ako.. UP Madilim…joke 🙂
but anyway ang napapansin ko eh ‘you or we are already conceding some power of our argument whenever we prefix it with “po” or “opo”..’ i mean seriously, when it comes to ideas we are all equal here..pero para bang may advantage na agad ideya ng nakatatanda kapag nilalagyan natin ng “kuya”, “manoy”, “manay”..”po”, opo..etc…
i don’t want to start a Flame here, just stating a thought.
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ps: i like your last post Dei, it’s more real. -
February 13, 2009 at 8:14 AM #108201
“..no point in debating dahil visitor o newbie lang kayo sa GB, hindi nyo pa kilala (virtually) mga tao dito..”
-So nangangahulugan palang restricted ang mga baguhan na ipahayag ang kanilang saloobin o ipagtanggol man lamang ang sarili? Napakamakatwiran naman yata nito.
Kung tutuusin, hindi naman kami nakikipagdebate sa inyo. Nililinaw lamang namin ang mga maling pagkakaintindi sa mga bagay-bagay, at higit sa lahat ay humihingi lang kami ng respeto (na sa tingin ko ay hindi naibigay ng iba).
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February 13, 2009 at 7:45 AM #108200
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February 13, 2009 at 7:08 AM #108199
@JAIME,
This is exactly the purpose of the this thread or the Thread Starter! She was doing her research through Internet – specifically here at GoBicol, our Maogmang Tambayan! Internet is a great tool for research! But what she got from Mr. Josee? A humilating response as if she committed a crime! He was trying to be smart unfortunately it backfires on him and leaves a really bad impression sa mga Bicolano! Sabi ngane kan Eraserhead “Wag Maniwala sa Maling Akala!”
Hinde naman siguro komo halos lahat ng members ng GB are residing outside the country ay dae na pweding makapigbigay ng opinion about sa kahirapan sa Bicol! I guess, you don’t need to be there to know the real score, isn’t it?@Carlos,
Yes, Josee did apoligized and you’re grateful? Yeah, he indeed apoligized but the way “GMA I’m Sorry” stunt for the Garci Scandal – there was no sincerity at all!
It doesn’t necessarily mean that putting a little details about yourself in your profile is to impress other. After all, what so big deal about it?
Yes, there is a risk involve with Internet Forum – where lies and deception is a common dinaminator. But I guess there is no harm kung ibandera mo kung sadin ang hometown mo sa Bicol, kung ano kan Gender mo, ano kan hobbies mo, etc. etc. After all, this GoBicol was suppose to be our Maogmang Tambayan, diba? But you guys have all the rights in this world to keep your profile BLANK!
Ang ibig mong sabihin, ang mga newcomers palan digdi ay dapat mag-ingat sa comments ninda dahil dae pa ninda midbid kan mga ta’wu digdi? It’s like you’re suggesting na ang mga Turista na maduman sa Bicol ay mag-ingat din dahil tibad makasalamuha ninda yung mga ta’wu na tulad ni Josee na imbes tulungan yung tao, ay alipustahin pa? -
February 13, 2009 at 5:46 AM #108197
Mga nene mga nono, internet ito. login at your own risk. no point in debating dahil visitor o newbie lang kayo sa GB, hindi nyo pa kilala (virtually) mga tao dito. besides, be thankful because you got allthe answers you were looking for, the good ones and the bad ones.
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February 13, 2009 at 3:32 AM #108187
Anonymous🙂 Hi Jesa! I do understand your reaction, as well as your classmates’ – Drei was just trying to ask help which Mikey and I, at the first instance understood, but can we control the mind of other individuals on the way, they take an idea? The brain has different interpretation of what they see in this instance read, based on their prejudices and life experiences. We have pointed out the mistake of the way Drei’s posting was taken in context, and humble enough Mr. Josee – accepted his mistake and apologized [ do we need more? the broadness of the mind of a person and the measurement of intelligence of a human being in my own opinion is when that person knows when to stop, when to say sorry and when to accept an apology.
I did not consider Drei’s profile being from UP not to answer her questions and share my knowledge. I don’t think just because a student is from UP or even Harvard, or Cambridge has no right to ask question, when it is necessary. The best way to gain knowledge is to ask and not to pretend that you are smart just because you are in a high-profile institution, that would not make sense to me.
As I said, I could understand your emotional reaction on this thread, that is normal, young as you are, your inquisitive minds have that idealistic thoughts that things should be the way it should be! But wait until you aged, you would be surprised that not everything you see is the way it appears, idealism is youth – realism is life, soon you will know it:)
We are glad, that you consider this website as a source of knowledge, and we will help as much as we can, but please don’t expect that every memberhas the same idea. Please don’t forget this is a public forum, a salad of ideas, some has to be discarded some has to be kept, don’t waste your emotion by getting stressed!;) – save it for your studies.:) -
February 13, 2009 at 3:16 AM #108186
Ate Jesa, salamat sa pagtatanggol sa akin. Na-appreciate ko nang malaki ang ginawa mo 🙂
Hayaan mo na lang, humingi naman na ng sorry. -
February 13, 2009 at 3:14 AM #108185
Pasensya na po, pero sa palagay ko ay malaya ang sinuman na maglagay o hindi maglagay ng impormasyon sa kanyang profile. Sa tingin ko po ay nahusgahan ako agad hindi lamang batay sa aking profile, pati na rin sa tanong ko rito sa forum.
Ngunit ano po ba ang masama kung magtanong ang isang estudyante batay sa kanyang binasang artikulo? At nagkataon pang isang requirement ang pagtatanong sa mga Bicolano sa loob at maging sa labas ng forum ukol sa isyung ito. Sana ay maintindihan ninyo rin po ang aking punto.
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February 13, 2009 at 3:04 AM #108184
I don’t wanna blame you guys if you see us like this (na umaasa na lang sa tulong niyo!)
Guys, like you… We’re just only exercising our freedom to speak out what’s on our mind. Would it be a mistake to ask for help? We’re also trying our darness best to study your Language not because we want it but because it’s a part of our course. Kung ayaw niyo po kaming tulungan we’ll highly appreciate it na sbihin na lang ninyong ayaw nyong magsalita about it. Kase less message…less mistake but more comment more mistakes. Kase hindi kame ang dapt ninyong tirahin sa forum na ito. Kami man ay nahihirapan din sa patakaran ng pamahalaan dapat sila ang sinisisi natin at hindi kami. Hindi ho ba? Ano po ba ang tingin ninyo sa amin taong-gobyerno? Ang tanong po…Kailan pa ho ba naging TAO ANG GOBYERNO?
Can anyone in this room tells us na MALI ANG TUMULONG? Lalo na sa kabataang tulad naamin. Kailang kami dapat magtanong at saan pa bukod sa aklat kami dapat na magtanong. Hindi ba kayo dapat maging proud dahil binubuhay pa rin ng mga mag-aaral ang pagpapa-unlad sa wikang akala ninyo nilumot na sa mundo?
Wake up!!!!! Be open 2009 na! Kaya lalong naghihirap ang Bicol e. Kase may mga taong ganyan mag-isip! (excuse sa ibang hindi!) -
February 13, 2009 at 2:29 AM #108182
Excuse me po…
I’m so disappointed to know that some of the users are not as open-minded as Manay Rose. I looked up to those people with great sense of respect in terms of not generalizing people whether they come from UP or not (this is for you Ms. JOSEE). I don’twanna misquotethose words you uttered but I suppose many will react kung sasabihin kong marami palang makitid at mabababaw na Bicolano or bastos na Bicolano I’m sure maraming magrere-act. Marami din ang magsasabing “hindi naman lahat”. Yes they’re right na hindi naman lahat! I’m also from UP Diliman and Drei is my classmate. We join this forumnot because we wanna get an impression of being damned but we believed that this site is very warm to those people around the globe and with high respect with other’s belief as well. Nakakalungkot lang talagang malaman na may magagalit sa inyo sa pagtatanong namin. Parang hindi kase magandang marinig yan lalo na ng mga outsidersna hindi Bicolanos (like us).I’d like to correct you ms joseefor sayingthis,”kabahagi ng nagpapaaral sayo ay mga Bicolano…mula sa mga buwis ng mga Bicolano….tapos ngayon may assignment ka at pagtatanungin mo kong bakit naghihirap ang mga BICOLANO? …. pasensya ka na tabi nene Dai tabi yan Sermon….kundi para mag hurop-hurop ka!”
Maybe you’re rightor the other wayaround. Not all of us are enjoying your taxes that’s because mas malaki ang necessity ng school rather than the budget na binigay ng govt. If you don’t know mas malaki pa ang budget sa isang bullet rather than sa mga students na tinatawag ninyong Skolar ng Bayan. Siguro nga po. Skolar nga kami but we dont have any regrets na sa UP kami pumasok it’s because we were molded here na maging open sa lahat ng nangyayari. Maraming mga taga-Bicol dito so can’t you imagine kung maririnig nila ang reactions niyo. Baka kahit sila medyo ma-surprised sa mga malalaman ninyong prinsipyo. Hindi lang po kayo ang naghihirap halos lang tao sa buong mundo maging America umaabot na ang pagtitios nin mga tawo pero kailangang magtiwala pa rin tayo hindi lamang sa kung pwede nating magawa para sa bansa kundi pati na rin sa ating Dios na nakakakita ng lahat ng sakripisyo na ating ginagawa para sa lahat ng mga mahal natin sa buhay.
Pag-isipan niyo po muna ang mga sinasabi ninyo bago ninyo bitawan. Baka kase maraming matisod pati na mga kababayan niyo.
Maraming salamat po manay rose. Believe po ako sa inyo dahil ang tunay na Bicolano ay marunong makipag-kapwa tao at marunong tumulong sa kapwa Pilipino.
God bless sa lahat! -
February 12, 2009 at 11:23 PM #108165
Sa isang banda tama din naman si noy josee na dapat mag research sinda sa sadiri ninda.Napapansin ko na puro na lang patabang an mga thread digdi.An maiitatabang ko saindo su mismong mga nsa bicol an hapoton nindo ta iyan an magtatao nin tamang simbag sa hapot ninyo.Digdi sa GB kadaklan digdi mga nasa luwas kan bicol magtao man nin komentaryo puro an dahilan an gobierno,graft and corruption pa drama effect pa na OFW an mga produkto.Sa experience ko digdi sa UAE nagpapasalamat pa din ako ta sa lambang sarong filipino an katumbas sampulong bangladesh,pakistan,indians or the likes.Ang ibig kong sabihin mas may talento an mga filipino kaysa sa mga ibang lahi.Kung mapapasyar kamo sa mga construction site makikita ninyu na parang mga langggam sa dami an mga ibang lahi pero an mga filipino mabibilang mo lang sa garamoy mo.Minsan iniicip ko kung sana lahat ng nagtatrabaho d2 ay mga filipino ciguro kung aanggat an kabuhayan ng mga kababayan ko.
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February 12, 2009 at 10:24 PM #108159
Nag sorry na ngani si besfren Josee pero idepensa ko lang ang punto nya.
Parehas man ngani kami blanko ang profile because we dont want to impress our achievements/qualifications/status on others. Internet baga ini, dai man ang mga tawo digdi magkabiristo. Sa ideya lang saka sa paagi kung pano mai-deliverki maray ang ideya nagkakaiba ang mga miembro.
What my bespren Josee was pointing out was, thetopic or the question was not consistent with the personality of the person he/she portrays to be. Kung sa American lingo dapat, walk the talk. Nataon lang siguro na dai pa confirmed su valentine dateni besfrenkaya mainit su payo (kung arin, di ko aram).
Anyhow, I would understand. She’s still too young and being an intelligent girl she is, she’ll adjust and adapt to the real world. Keep it up, nene, be the pride of your OFW parents! -
February 12, 2009 at 8:07 PM #108145
Anonymous@mikey – my apology! I was not able to drop a note of thanks to your posting! it was you who actually gave me the courage to voice out my concern!:) I am glad that I am not alone in this stand! – you are just so subtle in expressing it, that when anyone would read your posting and not read between lines won’t get your point! again! thanks Mikey! [as always my close friend told me – you are such an intelligent guy! with a very depth perspective of issues!:)]
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